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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:32 pm
Well well, we finally meet again Shane. I find it quite humorous that you prefer to spend every waking hour plotting your next attempt to take us down, it's cute really. One thing is for sure though, you are quite predictable, and I've anticipated this drama for quite some time, so allow me to drop some facts on your plate.

Also, before I get started i'd like to clarify that Orbit Storm is in no way affiliated with Renaissance, and I actually have no idea who he is, however its pretty obvious that hes not a moron & hes also not buying the crap you're selling. Moving along..

1: The users "ultimaonlineforever", "rages4calm", & "Easy-" are all Shane, clearly. While it's already beyond obvious, just for fun i'll clarify further. These users are all currently banned on our forums, as all are of the IP's, of which all of them are Shane's. This guy is quite persistent, however again, he is also very predictable.

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2: Shane has been long since banned & firewalled from Renaissance, not that that matters of course, he runs his own server. Yet despite this, he still manages to spend his every waking moment trying to attack us. Shane was banned for not one, but 2 repetitive violations of using EasyUO, against the rules of the server (which he clearly has read, hes linking a portion of our rules above :roll:).

Of course, I didn't come without evidence of such, for what kind of person would I be to make false accusations or those I could not prove. Anyone with a brain will be able to identify the activity occurring in this RPV: (That's right Shane, I still have it)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/521 ... _12.50.rpv

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3: This person is by the most bitter, angry, & self arrogant person you could possibly meet. If any of the above information matches data you are able to find on your server, I would highly recommend you black-list it immediately & from any/all sources. Also, the fact that you've come here in such a childish attempt to take us down (yet again) is quite entertaining. You are clearly the ex-GM Wintersleep from UOSA, and you have long since been banned from Second Age as well. If you're going to ask Derrick for help, at least don't brand him an idiot in the same very post, that's not a very good approach..

PS: Shane, stop talking to yourself man, it's clear as day you're every single person posting in this thread except for myself & Orbit (since you brought us up, that is) Players vote for servers they like, and they enjoy playing. They don't vote for servers where half the playerbase is speed-hacking, corrupt staff members, or members of an inner circle where they get inside information & special services from the staff, because they're "friends".

PPS:

Your level of jealousy is truly amazing, and quite flattering. Shouldn't you be attending to UOF? This just isn't a good look for you my man..

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:35 pm
So are you guys going to explain how you got 4x the amount of votes then your unique players on the first day?

"We just have an active voting base, I swear" :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:15 pm
I guess I shouldn't be so surprised. A lot of folks have asked for my opinion about UO:F, and quite frankly, I'm not even remotely impressed. They strip content from public repositories and label it their own (i.e. the psuedoseer system from Rel Por). They've added incomplete galleons downloaded directly from ServUO's file library. They've even gone out of their way to replicate another server's website, and utilize concepts from other servers. For all intents and purposes, UO:F lacks originality and creativity. It's really just another cookie cutter that will burn out in a few months. If Chris's allegations that each of these accounts in this thread do indeed belong to "Shane", I can't foresee how this helps UO:F's grievances any (not that they were legitimate in the first place).

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:32 pm
Again with the assumptions lol. I'm not Shane the e-mail should of been a dead giveaway if you did a reverse search on that e-mail address it wouldn't be hard to figure that out.

Orbit Storm wrote:I guess I shouldn't be so surprised. A lot of folks have asked for my opinion about UO:F, and quite frankly, I'm not even remotely impressed. They strip content from public repositories and label it their own (i.e. the psuedoseer system from Rel Por). They've added incomplete galleons downloaded directly from ServUO's file library. They've even gone out of their way to replicate another server's website, and utilize concepts from other servers. For all intents and purposes, UO:F lacks originality and creativity. It's really just another cookie cutter that will burn out in a few months. If Chris's allegations that each of these accounts in this thread do indeed belong to "Shane", I can't foresee how this helps UO:F's grievances any (not that they were legitimate in the first place).


Again you are showing how stupid and pathetic you really are. The Pseudo Seer system was designed by Mob the monster aka Alan who is a developer on UO:F. Also get your facts straight about the website design. Anyone who knew a damn thing about web design would recognize a template when they seen one.
Since we are talking about other peoples work being used since btw most shards are using public scripts. Let's talk about how 2 months after uoforever launch uo: renaissance copies the front page and puts up a video. Shortly after uoforever introduced platinum rewards, on the 3rd of april uo: renaissance does the same. Simple discoveries that can easily be made with web archives website. So please tell me more about utilizing concepts from other servers.

Simply put do your damn homework first . Also the Galleon isn't from servuo library the galleon is from runuo archives it is also not available for players in the server. Since we are talking about the galleon it belongs to EA not servuo, not some random person who managed to put a few statics together. It is a unfinished replica of high seas boats. IF you're calling using EA stuff a copy cat then you need to open your fiddling eyes and look around because unless your server is 100% custom guess what... Your copying OSI/EA.

As for talking poo about the server population it's kind of funny UO:R is how old now? How long has the server been around? Look at that peak lol. Best part you guys allow 3 i.p. addresses and all character slots. UO:F is what 4 months old? For a server that is doing so "poorly" it's funny how uo:renaissance has and never will come close to reaching those numbers of uosecondage, hybrid, uo:f. heck even uo demise and uo immortalis has more players than uo:R

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:26 pm
Woah woah woah here.
You clearly do not know me. I am Shane, Rave, Silence, no one else- Let's get that straight.
I actually came to you once long ago before before i created UO Forever if you remember correctly and offered to totally revamp your marketing structure, website, etc and you guys actually turned me down. I am not scared of rejection, but it is clear you now made the wrong move. Now, months later here we are, looks like we are on top. And yes, i was banned for EasyUO from your server as it was too difficult i thought to get invested quickly, which it was/is. Which is also a direct result of why you are tetering around the 160 client mark with 2 accounts per person (for conversation sake, instead of 3, giving your the benifit of the doubt with 80 unique ip connections) with barely any growth. Many of my players know i used EasyUO when i played, they also know that is exactly why i can spot every script. Yes, i was staff on UOSA which i've told to many people publicly, i have nothing to hide man- When i was staff on UOSA it was like 5, 6 years ago?? Big deal.

Now if you knew me, you know i am a business man. I was just updated by someone on my server about this post and i will say that this is very minor poo compared to stuff i deal with on a day to day basis normally. Do not attempt to call me out that i care THAT much about you and your vpn'd votes or that your server is even seen as competition in the eyes of UOF or alot of servers i know, which is why you seem to need to cheat votes to get on peoples radar. Your amount of anger replied to this thread is a clear act of guilt. I have just been informed and shown today how much of a blueprint we have set for you guys and how you are following us nicely with your new patches. I am glad we are an inspiration to you, and if i am in such jealousy i just don't know what you would be called at this point.

I originally posted in a reply to this because it is VERY obvious you are cheating votes, i was curious if it was even monitored at all or if anyone gave a poo about votes etc which it appears no one really does.

However, since you took so much time posting my ip address, and threw a measly attempt at trying to bring me down, i guess you just set it in stone where we are at with eachother right now. I had no hardships against you originally, i simply wanted to know if vpn voting was recorded or not. In fact you guys are never brought up, talked about, or even thought of through our entire server honestly or our staff..

I appologize if you took it as such a direct hit to you personally, it was never my intention. As for me being banned from your server, always keep in mind it is a different relationship to a server i just join and don't give a poo about to something i build from the ground up.

With the ripping of Rel Por, i would like to say that we hired Mob Of Monsters and is a solid PAID staff member and friend on our team. He is the one who implemented all these systems.

I hope your server does well all in all, however i will say that with me and my team of developers and marketers with the bond we share and how well we sync together, we will be setting the bar high for everyone.

It is up to you guys to challenge us.

Shane
Ultima Online Forever
Owner.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:32 pm
Orbit Storm wrote:I guess I shouldn't be so surprised. A lot of folks have asked for my opinion about UO:F, and quite frankly, I'm not even remotely impressed. They strip content from public repositories and label it their own (i.e. the psuedoseer system from Rel Por). They've added incomplete galleons downloaded directly from ServUO's file library. They've even gone out of their way to replicate another server's website, and utilize concepts from other servers. For all intents and purposes, UO:F lacks originality and creativity. It's really just another cookie cutter that will burn out in a few months. If Chris's allegations that each of these accounts in this thread do indeed belong to "Shane", I can't foresee how this helps UO:F's grievances any (not that they were legitimate in the first place).


Yes,
If our 550 client base burns out in a few months i guess thats the way it goes. We will be fighting damn hard to keep it going though as we always have straight from BETA.
Also, yes we used a template, however the graphics and video are all original. I guess being one of top servers at the moment is called cookie cutter now, so thats good to know.

I'm really confused here as it appears UOR replicated alot of patches that were released on UOF. Maybe thats just me though.. Oh Didn't you guys get your video on there after UOF launched as well?...

Like i said guys,
I hope your server does well, and we will continue to set the bar for you- I hope you do for us some day, it just will make us work harder!

Thanks guys,
I see nothing will be done about the VPN votes so thats where im ending this at as it was really all i was interested in.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:44 pm
Orbit Storm wrote: But as far as UO:F being 400 "unique", that much is certainly not even remotely true.


The following was taken right now at 4:43pm mountain time on a thursday.

http://screencast.com/t/2Rm8HooQrvS


Facts > Assumptions.

I can take another on a peak time if you wish. Please resist the urge to spread lies and rumours about us if you can. This goes for you too Ezekiel on the whole:
"They don't vote for servers where half the playerbase is speed-hacking, corrupt staff members, or members of an inner circle where they get inside information & special services from the staff, because they're "friends" thing that you said. I am not sure where you're getting your information from, but i have hundreds and hundreds of players who would say otherwise.

Have a good day guys.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:32 pm
rages4calm wrote:Again you are showing how stupid and pathetic you really are.

Do the insults make you feel like a tough guy? I've met mentally challenged individuals more capable of conveying an educated counterargument without the need for prefacing it with amateur insults, than yourself. I'm well aware of who designed the system, but I'm skeptical he joined UO:F. If in fact he did, that will surely be the only reason UO:F has a chance at being anything other than second rate. I have an immense amount of respect for Mob, and have spoken with him on a number of occasions. I'm also aware of what the template is (ala iCorporate), I'm a web designer by profession.

Quite frankly, I don't care what UO:R may or may not have done. These sort of disputes should be handled in private, between one another, rather in a public forum in an effort to create a whole lot of unnecessary drama. UO:F is no more "original" than UO:R is (per your allegations), which is the only reason I've taken the time to point out UO:F's glaring flaws - not because I'm affiliated with UO:R in any capacity (per your conspiracy theory). There are only a handful of servers (most of which I have either developed for, or spent a considerable amount of time on), that truly offer unique and innovative content, and UO:F certainly is not one of them.

The unfinished base class for the galleons are indeed available on RunUO, but have since been buried and have received much more attention on ServUO (another fork of RunUO). I'm also not going to debate the semantics of what is EA's and what is not. At that point, we'd be discussing intellectual property, and that's a touchy subject at best. However, EA only owns copyright of the artwork, not the programming language itself.

Another thing - I've seen dozens of servers flourish for the first six months and quickly degenerate into cesspits or ghost towns (Rel Por was one such server, averaging less than 70 unique clients before it's closure). All in all, your post was filled with a whole lot of misinformed, Google'd garbage. You, or your second rate community, are not on my level (intellect, development ability, or otherwise). And that is how you puff out your chest.. but see, I've earned the right to do that over the years. The amateur cookie cutter servers cropping up these days don't come close to my achievements over the last decade (let alone anyone else I've had the honor and pleasure of working with).

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Based on a similar lack of basic grammar, the same repetitive content, and belligerent nature, it's safe to say "rages4calm" is also posting as "ultimaonlineforever". I have no interest in responding to duplicate posts. Having said that, I believe my time in this thread has run its course. How you folks choose to waste your time waging e-peen measuring contests is none of my concern. I've said what I believe needed said, and various members of the UO:F community have succeeded in shedding light on their true nature. Best of luck, kiddos.

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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 9:19 pm
Easy- wrote:So are you guys going to explain how you got 4x the amount of votes then your unique players on the first day?

"We just have an active voting base, I swear" :lol:


So, staying on topic.

Day 1 - UO:R has 200 unique votes.

150 clients online UO:R, 3 client limit, and they run a "platinum" system where you gain points for having x client logged in so likely we are talking 50-75 unique players logged in.

Guys your poo is clearly rigged. You are getting 3x the amount of votes then your UNIQUE player base on your first day.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:33 pm
Another month. Another bout of UOR cheating the votes. You guys toned down your proxy voting bot a bit this month to make it a little less obvious but its still obvious.

Too bad it appears Derick abondoned this website and doesn't moderate it anymore.
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